{"id":68,"date":"2017-12-14T16:39:13","date_gmt":"2017-12-14T16:39:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/?p=68"},"modified":"2017-12-14T22:22:51","modified_gmt":"2017-12-14T22:22:51","slug":"dc-variable-speed-power-feeder","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/2017\/12\/14\/dc-variable-speed-power-feeder\/","title":{"rendered":"DC variable speed power feeder"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Having a need for a super slow variable speed power feeder, the options are a 3 phase 220v unit with a VFD to control the speed, or a DC unit.\u00a0 Most fixed speed geared power feeders go down to about 6.5fpm, the new DC servo one goes down to 5fpm, but I wanted something even slower, because my 3hp shaper can&#8217;t profile flooring or any other full depth profile with anything higher than about 3fpm, and I do not want to run multiple depths of cut.<\/p>\n<p>So I bought an old used 3 wheel delta power feeder that was missing its motor to inst<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/i.ebayimg.com\/images\/i\/112333234937-0-0\/s-l140\/p.jpg\" width=\"140\" height=\"140\" \/>all a DC motor on it.\u00a0 If I had known what was going to be involved with getting it up and running I would have just done something else.\u00a0 Having never disassembled a power feeder, I found out that the power is transferred from the motor to a worm and wheel gear set, then to a sprocket and gears to drive each wheel.\u00a0 It did not come with the worm gear that goes on the motor shaft, and there is no information on the internet about the dimensions of that part, apparently it is just a machined on the motor shaft as far as I can tell, so it is not a separate part.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/715flNpS4OL._SL1500_.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-74 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/715flNpS4OL._SL1500_-300x232.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"232\" srcset=\"http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/715flNpS4OL._SL1500_-300x232.jpg 300w, http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/715flNpS4OL._SL1500_-768x593.jpg 768w, http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/715flNpS4OL._SL1500_-700x541.jpg 700w, http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/715flNpS4OL._SL1500_.jpg 1500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>I also could not get access to the worm wheel to get dimensions either, it is part of an assemblage that is pressed into the body of the feeder, and I could not devise a non-destructive method of getting it out.\u00a0 So, I had the bright idea of using a piece of silly putty to press into the worm wheel to get the profile of the worm gear that I needed to acquire\/manufacture.\u00a0 After measuring up the silly putty mold as best as I could and taking the interior dimensions of the gear box to find out approximately how big of a part could fit in there.\u00a0 After consulting the interwebs and the machinery&#8217;s handbook, the best fit was a 14.5 pressure angle worm gear, 12 pitch, 1&#8243; pitch diameter, right handed, and I needed a .500&#8243; bore, with set screws.\u00a0 But I also needed it to reach about 3&#8243; down into the gear case, and none of the manufactured worm gears were nearly long enough to reach that far and engage the worm wheel.\u00a0 So I had to make my own part.\u00a0<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-72 alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/IMG_20170402_141219_363-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/IMG_20170402_141219_363-300x169.jpg 300w, http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/IMG_20170402_141219_363-768x432.jpg 768w, http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/IMG_20170402_141219_363-700x394.jpg 700w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/> I ground a forming tool for the lathe that matched the silly putty mold and the schematic above, and cut the worm on the lathe.\u00a0 4tpi is the lowest that my South Bend 10K will thread, and this just happened to be 4tpi.\u00a0 I think I used a 3&#8243; long section of aluminum, 1.5&#8243; OD, brought it down to 1.25&#8243; OD, bored it to .5&#8243;, threaded it, and drilled and tapped for a couple set screws.\u00a0 I know these parts are usually made out of hardened steel, but this was just a prototype, so aluminum was a good choice for rapid prototyping.\u00a0 Turned out great.<\/p>\n<p>Getting it installed and setting the proper mesh on the gears was a little tricky, as I could not see inside of the gear case to tell what was going on.\u00a0 I even tried snaking a bore-scope in through the oil port to help, but I couldn&#8217;t see anything, and I ended up judging proper mesh by watching the current draw on the motor, and listening to the noises as it ran.\u00a0 When the gears were slightly out of mesh, it would have a swing in current draw accompanied by a regular groan then quiet then groan.\u00a0 And just adjusted the motor on its mounting holes to minimize both of those.<\/p>\n<p>I forgot to mention I also had to make a couple adapter mounting plates.\u00a0 The original motor mounted with 4 bolts, but my motor was too big in diameter to use those so I had to use one plate to mount to the body of the feeder to use the original mounting holes, and drill and tap that for an adapter plate that would bolt to my motor&#8211;it was a real ordeal.\u00a0 I have a feeder stand, but I still need to make an adapter arm to be able to attach this feeder to it.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/IMG_20171213_134713_677.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-70 size-medium alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/IMG_20171213_134713_677-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/IMG_20171213_134713_677-300x169.jpg 300w, http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/IMG_20171213_134713_677-768x432.jpg 768w, http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/IMG_20171213_134713_677-700x394.jpg 700w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/IMG_20171213_134746_117.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-69 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/IMG_20171213_134746_117-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/IMG_20171213_134746_117-300x169.jpg 300w, http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/IMG_20171213_134746_117-768x432.jpg 768w, http:\/\/mike-stalkfleet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/IMG_20171213_134746_117-700x394.jpg 700w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>FYI I used a KBMD DC drive and bodine 42 series 1\/3hp DC motor, it has a range of 0-17.5 with the current gearing.\u00a0 But I set the minimum speed to 2fpm because it was too easy to stall it out below 2fpm.\u00a0 But at or above 2fpm it seems to have plenty of power, as I can&#8217;t stop the wheels by hand by grabbing and holding them.\u00a0 All things considered, I was rather surprised that it actually worked.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; 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